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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carlos, you didn't slow down research. Truth is that I did that coil in several turns (feel like it, don't). Moreover rod experiments are posted 10 days later on my domestic forum. And after few days there where both connected and posted here. Sometimes I am slow, but at least I got time to think things though. Since I was working with this coil from May till this days, I think I understand comm. coil, still mobius needs work. FOL is good, but to combine it with knowledge of Lakhovski points (completely forgot about that coil, thanks Very Happy ). Explanation below with picture (didn't make it jet).

Hehe, write name of sick person and put it on orgonite Cool . Don't know what do you mean about "shouting up mountain". Just pointing, right?

I too cannot find wire, thinking about wire for tramsformers, though I should ask friend for test (whether I could do my TM coils Laughing ). First reaction of mine to 108 was "pffff". Now I am pondering what do you mean by 108. Total # of turns (12 knotted or 6), 108 knotted or coil that will resemble http://www.whale.to/b/108_h.html (this is on edge of possibility). Personally I would never wound coil that isn't with supercoil, but that is my path.

What does it mean to figure out with rutile quartz?

Just to clarify what is Lakhovski mobius or multi Lakhovski point mobius or Tensor Coil AKA Caduceus Coil mobius (1. page of this topic by creative chi) (Tensor coil on torus).

Made mistake in picture. One wire is "S" and other is in and out, so that "S" end is wounded in coil.
Problem is if it's 6-knotted there will be hollow spots, so it should be more knots (18 knots for my xtal size with 3-sc wire?) (or maybe less??? Looks strange)... Circle (skelet of coil) is probably just wire for mobius (like 3-sc in my FOL mobius) so that wire isn't going right out.

Funny thing about this coil is that Lakhovski (point or coil) + toroidal (mobius) = Tensor (providing that gap is small enough) + toroidal. So, by joining 2 coils in one, we accidently join 3.

My first picture that is only on WM Razz
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really interesting posts Smile What I ment was 18turnsx6knots coiling with let us say around 24AWG...

Didn't count the one Sensei send to Ruth. Meaning those kinds as example.
Maybe massively coiling your crystals like radionic condensators Smile

The question is you can go as far as you want with geometric coiling but how does the collective accepts this, they form a polarity? How is the density of your field tb's gonna react?
Let us say you have a titan sp and only link HD minies to it while gifting, well had a longer black hellie than usual?

Looking forward for more coiling and gifting Cool

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm. Supercoiling is more like inductance thing, not capacitance. I see where you are going with this Smile

I think I have what you're are looking for. Those coils from 1. picture are meant to be passive. Idea was about something else in beginning, but here is why there where pored in orgonite:

If you have oscilloscope image of zapper (my guess is that 1 k ohm resistor with some sort of transformer connected to zapper (for zapping, not stronger) and mini-jack on sound card might work):
Hence I don't make orgonite, my coil/orgonite formation needs more orgonite mass. The idea (now) is to create coil that responds to my zapper. We will do this by length. The coil is supposte to act as resonator, teleporting excessive orgone via radiant signal (though I think that there should be in few km radius of zapper (at least 1. ones)).

I determined length via oscilloscope image (different for different zappers) (sheer genius from guy who gave that zapper)

click on link and press ctrl++ to enlarge http://www.mandrilo.com/images/orgon/uzapper/osc/2_A7_Signal_432.jpg
We can see that it takes about 14 ns for signal to raise. Speed of light is c=c0/sqrt(relative dielectric), or 2e8 for PVC. My measurement from picture isn't correct, so I rounded that up in 5 cubit. That is λ/2=half wavelength of radiant signal (more precisely, but still not correct: half wavelength of the first harmonic (support) of radiant signal component of zapper)

λ/2 * n (n natural number) is used not short circuited, while you will have to use λ*n if you want short circuit. I recommend 2 λ/2 Lakhovsky over 1 λ Lakhovsky. That is passive coil, more like "passive", hence it is about resonance. Resonance frequency change how you wrap your coil, but I don't have such knowledge. It is something similar to resonance, at least.
Have a stamp wire.
See what am I doing here Cool


On the side note (debatably OT) I said that rods are best for comm. coil, but I think that pipes are best for mobius and passive devices. Who would be crazy enough to gift with a lot of pipes, you ask? Tuna can can make TB into cannon with knowledge starseed gave us (induction CB is insulated pipe in orgonite). Can can be closed on one point if you create powered device, but not for passive. Better start saving cans, if you can Very Happy


About questions, everything seems ok. HD seems to get more powerful as you put them near coils then LD, but that is expected (used regular TB and HD from picture). I notice hellie only when I activate something new, but not always, so that correlation eludes me.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like that tuna thing Smile Recently made some induction tb's with LD antenna's was a real fiasco,
need to be at least MD.

How can we discalculate the PI-ratio in circle formulas working in the aether?

How to form a more consistent coil than knotting? How to utilise the harmonics to wind dual tech?
Using past antenna tech is not how we go further, how to harmonise a round rodin one?

Think the hellie has a quantum puter on board and will only be there once again the field, the etheric wind effect has been changed. Its like playing as kids with walkie talkies Smile you get on their frequencies...

There is this weird thing too, as nearer i get to orgonise big mansions in ritzy neighbourhouds,
the sooner the black hellies gets out Smile at the belgium coast you see them thrice a day with orgone.

Good luck back there and thanks for your insights, supercoiling at best!

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LD, that's nails, right?

Don't know much about theoretical ether, only formula I heard is that speed of scalar waves are pi/2 *c. Pi is always some sort of curve integral, while e is differential equation . So... I have no idea. Polar coordinates? Sry fell asleep on keyboard.


It is my feel that 2+-sc can even be made in solenoid around one pipe. But there aren't that strong as torodial. So, we will try to create something new.
Well, 4-sc makes Lakhovsky coil size of ~3 cm diameter from 5 cubit from wire I am using http://www.chipoteka.hr/artikl/22401/zica-02-mm2-puna-crvena-100-m . Meaning it will not curl more... So, if you use 5-sc (5-sc are theoretical, 32 wires or 16 1-sc) in theory it will be from 20 cubit (exact length doesn't matter if powered~ 10 m) (because halfling in supercoiling *2, because the wire is harder to bend *2). The big n in n-sc, I call them core.

There is another take on the matter. You can create k 4-sc-s. Make k Lakhovsky coils with it and stack them around xtal (like solenoid). Can do uppermost downest... middle.

(optional) I got few answers from quartz (pen in one, quartz in other hand). The hole part of Lakhovsky coil is moving on hexagonal vertices (upping in solenoid). (1 mean next vertex, 2 means next next). Formula is 223 223 223 22 (not full form (repeat 3 times to get full), you will only get full set of vertices and edges (form in picture below), not equal count of them) (I have a sketch with only 1 visit of all vertices). So k=12 coils (34 full form) 12*5m= 60m (if 3-sc, 1.25m each 15m)... That is a lot, better get some experiments first...
If you connect holes you will get:

I think that would be real trans-merkabic coil... That is my stile, I know you can translate it Very Happy. At least, nice train of thoughts and nice picture. I am sure I saw it somewhere...

Second is classic unicursal hexagram.
Do you mean that by consistent coil?


Wind dual tech? What is that?

Rodin antenna seems inconsistent if we use different circle sizes, but maybe it isn't if we use same sizes.


Diamond? In itself I think that comm. coil is self collapsing vortexes.
Pictures from http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4587-marko-rodin-9.html

Still... Kind of sketchy. Gifting money, I like the sound of that Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:04 pm    Post subject: Lakhovsky mobius, third generation of coils Reply with quote

Just to recap steps/complexity/generations:
1) supercoiling
2) toroid coiling (or SBB or Lakhovsky or ?)

Formula for Lakhovsky mobius (1. post on this page we see several names) is:
1) supercoiling
2) toroid coiling
3) Lakhovsky coiling
Firstly I thought to be active, but this is passive.
0) 5 cubit wire not connected (resonance with zapper)
1) 2-sc
2) I think that it's 8-knotted
3) (Lakhovsky) every time you finish 1 circle you change direction to create "Lakhovsky hole". With it you incidently change handedness of helixing.

So, here it is:



But I couldn't finish it, too much energy coming from this baby.
So, how to finish it? Some sort of grounding? Hematite maybe?

The thing that still bothers me is number of knots. We see holes in coil after changing direction if it is ~6 knotted. For low or high number of knots we will not see holes.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A lot of us have tried toroidal wraps, but don't find them to be of any extra advantage. For awhile I was wrapping donut shaped orgonite with toroidal wraps. Anyone else?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

emlong wrote:
but don't find them to be of any extra advantage.

I am wondering: advantage over what?
This is combination of Tensor coil, multiple Lakhovsky and mobius (toroid) that is made from wire from mobius from wire of mobius.
Expect that, cyclo-cycloid, SBB (and solenoid) I don't know any other coil. (big secret is like comm. coil and that is 2 SBB)
Is there a coil that I missed Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What difference do you actually feel?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is weaker then that FOL+com. coil with small HD, shungite and few bionized quartz on last page (now, but it gave quite a field when on Sun, I think stronger). (not good comparison, 30+ m of active coil on zapper with 5 cubit passive coil)

But as passive (i.e. Lakhovsky from 4-sc same length)...
It's like touching something holy for first time. A bit too holy for current experience.

As for quality of vibe, in comparison it's like difference between meditation on energy and meditation on energy with breathing on chakra and with order crown base anja sacral...
I can feel quality, but I used this description because the way I acted. As I suppose to act(I wasn't only one who get that I am different).
This is by coil alone on Sun.

I wrapped it till end, but there are many trials ahead. As wire follows handedness from previous wrap wire forms average between torodial and cyclo-cycloid, it is possible that cyclo-cycloid wrap did weaken coil a bit.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 2:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go for it.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cyclo-cicloids will lessen your energetic circuit with each loop...

Try to phase on/off your local field with heavy magnets on each side of your working area plate.

So the field you will create will accentuate in time and proportion so you will have a good or bad feeling directly without having to be confused over time Smile

The coiling will be more stabilised with natural magnetite.

Fake, unnatural magnetite is forced charged hematite.

Would rather go for a profound feeling with anahata, this is the emf core unit of your body.

Where is the cat coil? Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Emlog, like I wouldn't Laughing
Thanks Carolus for cyclo-cicloid conclusion it would take some testing to reach conclusion (don't know how). IME it's also true. As to why, I can put hypothesize that cyclo-cicloid confuse energy (scalar or whathever it is). But cyclo-cicloid as coil is ok. Some would say: "neatness counts".

I managed to do it with hematite in my pocket, but I have very fast adaptation to energies. I only have 1 magnet and it's in zapper and my working plate is air Laughing . But you are on to something.

Anahata EM core? I thought it was anja. I did meditate on it and now I have about 2 mm bump in that place, so I think that it is too strong (in comparison). I usually used that or room feel (pain receptors?) or palm.

Cat coil. Interesting, especially it is more of cat property (of coil) then coil. Cat property says to create cone instead of circle. In torodial wrap it would mean that any new layer (in my FOL mobuis that is 3 circles) is shifted a bit, creating cone inside toroid. Unfortunately Tensor coil property renders cat impossible because next layer have other direction (large circle and layer are synonyms here). But maybe if there are 4 layers (kind of weird, this sentence just got here, I thought it is impossible)... Well I like my coil and coil length so I will continue to do this one Razz

And now for my experiments Cool
That up picture shows middle-knotted coil. I have also done low-knotted (~4) and have another turn with it (like 1 more Lakhovsky coil (layer)). Density of wraps lower, one more layer=> weaker coil.
Did ~20-knotted (but only few wraps in other direction) and it's weaker. It sounds like a sheer coincidence that I stumbled upon right density of wraps. So, angle of 1. layer with skelet is about 40 so that second layer angle with skelet is about 70 (this is circa for middle-knotted, not rule to the letter; not mentioning error of angle measurement). Middle is about 7 in my case.
When coiling 2. layer I put one wrap for 1 wrap of 1. layer.

When talking about number of knots, we assume constant density of knots. But it is worth a try to put one more knot near "Lakhovsky hole" (total 2 knots). Did it. Such coil give a more strength inside but less outside. Worth to mention, though not my style.

My 2-sc is RL (left supercoiling from right wire for mobius). Tensor coil is right (1. layer) left (2. layer) or left right I tried to do RLLR but I got messy looking coil that is weak. It would seem that alternating rule is still in effect.

Avoiding cyclo-cicloid gives stronger coil but middle number of knots are more important. Everything that I wrote so far is about strength, but I couldn't do that quality of vibe. Analyzing my original coil lead me to very surprising rule. "S" of 2. order is putted on left helixing, then immediately wraps goes right. It does look a kind of messy, as left "S" is pressuring left start, but it gives quality of vibe.
Also, I like (don't know whether it makes difference) to encase "S" of 2. order with others and 2-sc from some layer.

Wire length still gives resonance, with zapper or sth. else. Aliquot's problems (or lack of) remains.

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It seems to me that if you touch such coil with xtal (432 HZ programed bionized quartz) that feel from coil remains. That magnets Carolus spoke of sounds similar. But of course, touching is nothing, to cast xtal in such coil in orgonite will be done. Maybe metal will something... Just to be safe, coil is on PW pyramid Razz . That strengthens other similar coils. With it I will change frequency of the world (that is my dream for passive coils).

When your eyes are tired you can also put this coil on eyes Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 6:40 pm    Post subject: Tutorial for Lakhovsky Mobius Reply with quote

Make 2-sc with your favorite length. I used RL (left helix made from right)

"S" of second order is turned (haven't tried inverse) on one side

"S" goes under the wire (if we turned like previous picture). This is only thing that gives vibe, rest gives strength (I might be wrong here, but I don't think I am). Now we have skeleton of coil. We even skeleton so it is circle and hold "S" with middle finger.

Upper rule would start left helixing, but we immediately start right (faster the better). We turn so that angle is about 45 (I measured 40). Precise angle isn't important. We try to have constant torsion. We hold it with index finger, while middle is holding "S" with wire first few wraps. We hold it and pull it because we want wires to be close.

This isn't mobius, but Lakhovksy mobius, so we will turn when we get near "S". As skeleton is circle (or torus) we have definition of up and down, like inward and outward. We will do the turn up/down (explained in few sentences *).

Now we start Tensor coiling. Rule is 1 wrap on new layer per 1 wrap on previous layer. Crossings are up and down (*). Equivalently we fill holes of last layer with wire . We try to make it toroidal as possible (avoiding cyclo-cicloid). This is where imperfection occurs. Lastly we press wire with fingers on coil.

We can see XXXX on up/down of a coil (Tensor coil)

And filling of holes \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/

I like that wire from skeleton and end of wire ("S" of 1. order and "0-th" order) to encapsulate "S" of 2. order. This is precise so:
5 cubit wire=2,62 m
42 cm length of 2-sc
3 cm diameter (1,5 cm radius)
I manage to hit it exactly.

If you end up with big surplus of wire go for next layer. If you have a little tighten wraps near end. If you have deficit then I don't know... Tighten harder?



Gallery:
cannot post picture so http://postimg.org/image/cs5iphukl/6149199f/




Program remains for some time if coil is touched with bionized programed clear quartz. It could be solo used to release pain. When I reach 13 of this coils there's real power began. If I disperse them through apartment they creates network of frequencyes.

For end, let's notice handedness of this coil. RL was 2-sc and we continued with R wrapping and then change direction to L. So this coil is RLRL. It would seem that rule of alternating handedness is still valid.
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 3:19 pm    Post subject: Cat Lakhovsky mobius Reply with quote

Hy WM
This is cat style Lakhovsky mobius. I thought about trying to combine Lakhovsky mobius with "scalar transformer" (gives no voltage on antenna part) and antenna. Antenna part is intended to be outside of orgonite, it would look similar to Sensei's avatar, so no explanation is needed Razz
It wasn't until I did it that I realized it it was cat style Very Happy. So, I cannot be sure whether Carolus inspired me or not Confused Very Happy






And here is how I did it (Excel):


Edit: (but of course, do smaller first, you cannot put bigger though smaller. It could redesign Big secret coil type)

I do not believe that transformer part is doing anything special so I will fall down to simpler coils. It's all in first picture, first ˇup-downˇ represents one 1-sc and second other 1-sc. I will make them 2-sc so I will have 2 "S" of 2. order to create 2 Lakhovksy mobius.
As we can see, pure wire (0-sc) doesn't have enough memory to stand, so we should rethink design. So, line in first picture represents 1-sc, both are supercoiled to 2-sc making 2 "S" of 2. order and 1-sc as standing wire.
I did number 2 (as ratio of length), because it's simplest number that isn't 0 or 1 but golden ratio comes to mind Razz
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